Hendrik Lorenz, 'Plato on the Soul' in The Oxford Handbook to Plato, p. 243 ff.
Lorenz claims that the tripartite soul is Plato's major contribution to
psychology.
In the Gorgias and Protagoras,
we see one version of the soul and human motivation.
In the Phaedo, we get a more
advanced picture.
In the Republic, we get a good
argument for Plato's most considered view.
Note that Lorenz thinks that the argument of Republic
436b-441c are good arguments that reasonable Greeks should have accepted
(what about us?)
- Protagoras
- KRS: Knowledge Reigns
Supreme
- "If someone were to know
what is good and bad, then he would not be forced by anything to
act otherwise than knowledge dictates" (Protagoras
352c4-6)
- ' anything' here specifically includes emotions, pleasure, etc.
- 'force' refers to things coming from inside the agent
- Key Assumptions of KRS:
- Knowledge of good and bad would consistently offer an answer to
the question "what would be the best thing to do in this
circumstance"
- Such knowledge would be fully in control of the agent's actions.
- In other words, no one would/could act contrary to such
knowledge.
- What is more, no one would even want to do so.
- The knowledge in question is treated quantitatively: a matter of
measurement and weighing of alternatives against each other.
- People may still hold confused or mistaken views about
appearances, but having such knowledge would make such views
powerless.
- No one can have such knowledge and still follow mistaken
appearances.
- "Socratic Intellectualism":
the agent believes that everything that agent desires to do aims at
something that is at least no worse than the other options the agent
thinks are available.
- Note that this applies generally: whether or not one has the
knowledge of good and evil
- Socrates thinks that this is just what humans do: everyone is
Socratically intellectual.
- Alternative to KRS and SI: one could believe that some people desire
to do things that they believe it would be better not to do, and that
some good people have regulated their beliefs and emotions etc. in
such a way that what they desire to do is in line with what they think
it is good to do.
- But Plato upholds KRS in the Protagoras
- Akrasia, aka "weakness of
the will"
- in popular Greek morality, this is the notion that sometimes a
person might believe that doing X is not really the best available
option but do it anyway, because that person is influenced by
pleasure, emotion, etc.
- it is not necessarily the case that at the time the person does X,
the person is aware of her belief that it is not the best course of
action.
- we would call it a "lapse of judgement"
- or perhaps the person just has no particularly carefully thought
out notion that X is not the best option, but does it under the
influence of emotion, pleasure etc.
- In the Protagoras, says
Lorenz, Plato does not argue that akrasia is impossible.
- What Plato claims is rather that one cannot simultaneously believe
that X is not the best available option and still do X.
- Plato thinks that every case that looks like such a case is
actually a case of ignorance
- Specifically, that person is ignorant of good and bad.
- Knowledge of good and bad would protect us from such actions, says
Socrates, and that is why he wants to discover it.
- Gorgias
- Overall, Plato is an intellectualist in the Gorgias
as well.
- Socrates says that one cannot simultaneously know what is just and
what is unjust and not do the just or prefer the unjust.
- One cannot even want to
do the unjust if one knows
what is just.
- Socrates seems to assume that all desires come with the belief that
it is better to pursue the desire than not to.
- Thus knowing what is good and bad, just and unjust, motivates
one to do it.
- Knowledge steers desires. KRS
- Someone who claims to want to do something that is bad for that
person is wrong.
- The person may be mistaken about what is good and bad.
- Or a person may be mistaken about what she really wants.
- Socrates is perfectly happy telling people that they do not know
what they really want!
- They may claim to want to do X, and Socrates thinks they may be
mistaken about wanting to do X.
- That is because their desire to do X rests on the (mistaken)
belief that X is the best option (or at least as good as any
other option)
- One can only do what one wants to do by doing something that is
really good for one (or at least the best option).
- Unwise or ignorant people are in the situation of having many
mistaken desires: they think they want things that they do not
really want.
- But in the Gorgias, the
character Callicles suggests that people should enlarge their
appetites and indulge them: the overall aim of life is to habitually
have the greatest satisfaction of the largest desires possible.
Socrates objects to this idea.
- Many desires are part of habits: it is entirely possible to have a
habit while knowing that one should break it.
- Such desires can be intense.
- Callicles suggests that those who do not pursue such desires are
wimps who are hamstrung by a sense of shame or some other scruple.
- It seems that Socrates has the upper hand, but Callicles' ideas pose
a reasonable threat.
- Also, it should be noted that if Socrates is right, it would make
no sense to use corporal punishment, because doing wrong is simply a
matter of ignorance, and as such, it merits education, not whipping.
- And yet even in the Gorgias,
Socrates seems to be willing to allow for corporal punishment. What
would it be for if not to break irrational habits? That is to say,
habits that don't follow Socratic intellectualism?
- Phaedo
- Soul as harmony and why Socrates rejects it:
- The harmony theory is that the soul is a particular arrangement of
bodily parts.
- No arrangement could oppose the parts that compose it (93a8-9,
94c3-7)
- This is the key principle: what does it mean and should we
accept it?
- What would it mean for an arrangement to oppose parts that
compose it?
- Could it be that, for instance, an arrangements of items in
which one part is acting difficult can be "put in order" by the
arrangement? Well, it makes no sense to think that the
arrangement itself could do so: the arranging force, if there is
one, would have to do so, but the arranging force is not the
arrangement.
- I can't think of a reason why this principle is wrong.
- The soul frequently opposes the bodily parts (94c10-d2) and their
affections (94b7-c1).
- presupposes that bodily parts are able to form things like
emotions and desires, a fairly common Homeric view: think of
Plato's quotation of Homer in the Republic and the Phaedo
in which Odysseus chides his heart for its desire to slaughter the
serving maids who have dishonored his household.
- Therefore, the soul cannot be an arrangement of bodily parts.
- In opposing the harmony theory of the soul, Socrates accepts a sort
of psychological conflict which Socratic intellectualism has a harder
time accepting
- Namely, in the Odysseus example he uses, Odysseus a) knows it
would be a bad idea to kill the maids at that time, but b)
nonetheless DESIRES to do so.
- Remember that Socratic intellectualism says that: the agent
believes that everything that agent desires to do aims at
something that is at least no worse than the other options the
agent thinks are available.
- Odysseus DESIRES to kill them while KNOWING it would be worse
than another available option.
- Can Socrates keep his intellectualism and believe that the
Odysseus example is something that really occurs in people?
- Yes, if he believes that one's bodily desires and emotions do not necessarily
have any force on the soul: the soul decides what to do.
- This seems a bit unstable (but realistic?): it means that people
find themselves bodily desiring to do things that their soul
vetoes.
- Is the soul infallible in its vigilance?
- Being unstable makes it unattractive because it leaves us
vulnerable, but it does not make it illogical or otherwise
objectionable as a theory.
- So Scorates can keep his intellectualism in spite of the
presence of contrary bodily
desires
- as long as the idea of "bodily desires" works.
- Soul as unitary (incomposite)
- It is naturally appropriate
for what has been combined and what is a composite to undergo
this, to be divided up in the way in which it has been combined.
But if something turns out to be incomposite, for that alone, if
for anything, it is appropriate not to undergo these things. Phaedo
78c1-5.
- What the Republic sees
as conflicts within the soul, the Phaedo
sees as conflicts between the body and the soul.
- In the Phaedo,
the body can have emotions and desires
- In the Republic, the
body cannot: desires and emotions belong to the soul.
- There is a problem with immortality if the soul turns out to be
tripartite, as it does in the Republic:
- A thing that is composite is subject to dissolution back into
its parts.
- In Republic 10,
Socrates confronts this: it is not clear whether his answer is
that the composition of the soul is of such a quality that it does
not dissolve or whether his answer is that once separated from the
body, the rational part of a philosopher simply has no appetitive
and thumetic parts any more, and the rational part is the only
immortal part of the soul.
Note: I have come to think that Lorenz fails in his effort to defend the
argument for the tripartition of the soul: he promised more than he
delivers. He makes some good points, but they do not convince me that Plato
has fully justified tripartition. That does not mean that Plato's position
is wrong or that he does not have a good argument for it: it means I believe
that Lorenz did not succeed in finding it.
Among thoughts his reading has provoked:
Are all desires attractions? or are aversions and repulsions also part of
the appetitive part? Plato never mentions an aversion as being explicitly
part of the appetitive part, but Glaucon is worried that the spirited part
may be part of the appetitive part, and Socrates thinks it is reasonable to
argue against this idea. Socrates does not do so by simply saying "all
appetites are attractions, so no aversion can qualify." Thus Socrates may
allow that aversions can be part of the appetitive part. (on a side note, my
aversion to, say, rotten meat, does not seem to be rational: rather it seems
physical, much like thirst, but that's just me perhaps). BUT, if all desires
are attractions, then the Leontius example shows very clearly that Spirit is
not an appetite. Otherwise, I am not sure what it shows, although it is
clear that Glaucon and Socrates think it shows that Spirit is not an
appetite.
Plato's concern that thirst is not for good drink, but just for drink has
often puzzled me. He makes heavy weather of it, but it seems to do little
work as an argument or piece of an argument. Lorenz somehow does not connect
the dots, but the Socrates who follows KRS and Socratic Intellectualism
would clearly claim that any desire is for something that the agent thinks
is good and the agent will only desire it if she thinks it is good. The idea
that thirst by itself is not for good drink may be meant to block that move.
What follows is far less close to Lorenz' chapter than the preceeding notes.
- Republic:
- Clearly Plato has abandoned KRS and Socratic Intellectualism: he
thinks that people often have irrational desires to do things which
their rational part says they should not do.
- In its place, he has a theory that claims three parts of the soul.
- The appetitive part is unruly and selfish and should not be in
charge
- putting it in charge will not even satisfy the appetitive part
itself, perhaps: it could just lead to chaotic unplanned pursuit
of the desire of the moment.
- The spirited part too is unruly and selfish and should not be in
charge
- The rational part, however, is capable of considering the other
two parts' well-being
- But later in the Republic,
it will be revealed that if the rational part is in charge, the
person's appetitive part will wither as will the spirited part,
and so the ascendancy of the rational part seems to be a tyranny
too...unless there is some way to establish that the rational part
has good goals while the appetitive and spirited part has bad
goals...
- Why should we believe that the rational part has good goals?
- It's primary desire is for truth.
- What's good about
truth?
- As for my opinion, if you care to hear it, I buy the point that
the rational part should be in charge, because it is capable of
considering the other two parts' well-being as well as the
well-being of the whole person. Insofar as I think that I consist
of appetitive, spirited and rational part, it seems obvious to me
that the rational part should be in control, but I don't buy the
idea that my goal in life should be the minimization of my bodily
appetites or that my body is the source of evil and that I should
avoid all things bodily for eternal salvation. As far as I'm
concerned, I die and death ends it, so there is no particular
other-life-oriented point to rationality. Putting your executive
function fully in charge is just the most efficient way to
organize one's life for optimum satisfaction. Sort of by
definition: the other parts have no capacity to figure priorities
out. That is simply what the executive part does: for judgements,
set up hierarchies, etc.